Sunday, September 29, 2013
MY Process
How do you write a paper? Write 150 words or so about your process for creating a piece of writing for a class. Do you do any pre-writing techniques? If so, which ones work well (free write, web cluster, brainstorm, outline, listing, other)? How many drafts do you usually create? How do you go about revising and editing, or proofreading? Does it help to have a peer take a look? Do you ever read your finished draft out loud? Describe the process you've developed that works for you. What are the strengths and weaknesses of your writing process? What kinds of writing assignments do you do well with? What kinds give you fits? Do you have any "tricks" that others could benefit from? Remember to respond to at least one post from a classmate.
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When I write my paper, I normally have a good idea of what it is going to be about before my pen hits the paper. I have to do a whole draft just winging it, then I go back and read it to see if it flows nice. Normally, I have a lot to change, and by the time I am done revising, my paper is covered in marks. Whenever I have a peer edit my paper, I wonder if they are actually telling me if I have nothing wrong with it, or if they just don't want to say anything about my paper. Normally, I like to keep the editing to myself until I am sure it is good enough for someone else to read it. Then if need be, I will go back and add, take out, or change whatever I need to. What helps me write is to write about things you know. I love to use real life examples because it makes you as a writer stick out a little bit more. Also, word play is very important. Using vibrant words instead of boring ones is a great way to intrigue readers. I love personal narrative writing, and poetry. Like I said, writing about what I know is always good for me. Plus, rhyming is cool.
ReplyDeleteLydia Suchecki
I always wonder the same thing when I have my friends edit my papers for me. You never really know if they're just being kind with the things they say, or if they actually mean it. I feel like having people you don't really know edit your paper is a better alternative because the emotions of being nice to your best friend will be taken out of the equation.
Deleteadam ross
There's nothing like a bit of constructive criticism. I think that if the feedback or peer editing were anonymous, then students would be more apt to say what they really think about their friends' papers. It really doesn't benefit anyone if peers aren't truthful about what really needs to be fixed in a paper.
DeleteI do the same thing about getting an idea in my head then writing a really rough draft, just to see if my idea will actually work. When you said writing what you know, I feel that is important too. It's never fun when you have to struggle through writing a paper.
DeleteI agree that if the peer editing were anonymous, there would be greater feedback and constructive criticism. I also have to wing it at first, and then go back and edit. Sending the paper to someone else to read is also good to do.
DeleteI like this anonymous peer editing idea. I cannot wing it, that simply does not work for me. It drives me crazy!
DeleteI agree, peer editing is always frustrating because you never know if they just don't want to hurt your feelings. I like your ideas!
DeleteBefore I even start writing my paper, I will sit down with a blank piece of scrap paper and jot down any and all ideas that pop into my head. After all of my ideas are written down, I will take a little bit of time to organize all of my thoughts and create the structure of my paper. Usually after this phase of my paper writing, I will get up and make myself a sandwich as a reward for making it this far through the paper writing process. After I finally sit back down, I begin to write my VERY rough, rough draft. This draft will usually be the first draft out of a total three drafts. The second draft being the draft I compose after having a peer look over it, will be the draft I use to double check that I have everything I want in my paper, where I want it, and how I want it. I really do believe that a session of peer editing in the middle of each draft helps a ton in the paper writing process, and will in turn produce a much better quality paper. Finally, after all of my drafts are done, and I have peer edited at least twice, I am ready to write my final draft. This draft will usually be read to myself, out loud to a peer, and read aloud by a peer before it makes it to the teachers desk. This just ensures that all of the mistakes in the paper will be found, and I won't look like an idiot turning in a paper written at a level of a kindergartener. If I had to pick one kind of writing that I especially like writing, it would be fictional papers. I love being able to make everything up while still keeping it realistic and sometimes even very believable. It makes writing more fun, and not as boring as people usually perceive it to be.
ReplyDeleteAdam Ross
Fiction is pretty great. You can make something totally up and it is still correct, because it is what you want it to be.
DeleteI always begin by writing very rough drafts, too! I would never let anyone read my first drafts...
DeleteI do the exact same thing when I start my writing ADAM!! like a diamond in the rough.
DeleteFor me, my process depends on the type of paper I am writing. If I'm writing a research essay, I like to brainstorm a broad topic and then go more in depth and pick a subtopic. I then organize all the research, make an outline, and then tackle the piece in paragraphs. For other pieces of writing, like narratives or fictional pieces, I like to brainstorm and find a starting or end point. From there, I think it is best to just sit down at the computer and start typing. I usually don't write my drafts because it makes me frustrated when I want to go back and add something (which happen frequently). Because I usually type my rough draft, I usually just have one draft that I continually edit on Word or Google Docs. I am constantly reading it aloud to myself. While one sentence may look good on paper, the flow of it when read aloud may be entirely off. I can always tell when I need to fix a spot when I stumble over the words.
ReplyDeleteOne weakness in my writing process is that it can sometimes be hard to start writing. When I don't like something, I throw that draft out and start again. It might take me three or four drafts before I complete an entire rough draft.
My favorite kind of writing is probably poetry or descriptive writing. I also really like research essays or scientific writing because it has more of a straight-forward way of thinking. I am not terribly fond of personal narratives but not opposed to them. They are just harder for me to write.
I agree with the fact that it is really hard to get a good idea, but once you have the idea, you can write it all in one setting. I also like descriptive writing,
DeleteMy problem is always not knowing what to write about. When I finally figure out what I want to write about and I am passionate about it, I can write on without a problem.
DeleteI like the fact that every essay you write, depending on what essay it is (persuasion, poetry or a descriptive essay) you go about it in a different way. Essays are like people, even if you have one topic for two papers or twins, they have their own uniqueness about them.
DeleteI'm the same way as far as having slightly different methods for different genres of writing
DeleteWhen I am writing a paper, normally a lot of things just flow through me and onto the paper. I don't really need to brainstorm ideas or make a mind map unless its something that is going to be more informative instead of a persuasive essay or a something from the more storytelling standpoint. The best thing that works quite well for me is either reading it aloud to myself or having someone read it to me. By doing this it helps me hear what others are hearing and if something catches my ear then I can go over that and redo or form the sentence in a different way. Most of my strengths come from my brain as a whole and I am just able to let things just go on a rant (in a good way) and the main weakness I have is the way I was brought up writing. I was taught that every paper you write should include a thesis, 3 supporting paragraphs and a conclusion. So in some cases it can downplay me but in others like the ACT or more formal writings it certainly plays to my advantage.
ReplyDeleteThis is so true! I think a lot of us were taught the 5 paragraph method and it drives me nuts. I also think it is a really good idea to read things out loud to hear how it sound.
DeleteI do this too, especially with reading it out loud. It really helps to catch mistakes you might otherwise miss.
DeleteI like to write creatively by just starting with whatever comes to mind as I write. Later I worry about organizing it into paragraphs and having each paragraph have a concise topic/idea. My first draft is usually basically my final but with added adjectives and feelings. My favorite type of piece to do is a memoir because I can create a piece that tells a story and describe exactly how I felt. One of my weaknesses is going too into detail to the point where I get a bit off topic. I do not like structured writing like the ACT that has no room for creativity. I appreciate the help of peer editors to make sure it makes sense and flows nicely. I am a fairly decent peer editor because I am honest and can usually make helpful suggestions if certain areas need more description or need to be reworded.
ReplyDeleteI would trust you editing my papers. I also know that you are a very creative writer from texting you. I always find myself smiling from your sentence structure and your word choice.
DeleteI do the same thing when I write. I just start writing and then go back later to organize and add details.
DeleteThat was Meghan Leete
DeleteWhen it comes to writing my process is pretty simple. When I am inspired, I write a draft on paper, and then throw away that draft straightaway and rewrite what I came up with from memory, improving what I first penned when the thoughts come to me. Afterward I generally don't do anything with it unless it's for school and the teacher requires me to do peer edits or maybe I consider the wording too poor and just tinker with it, going backwards from paragraph to paragraph. The weakness of writing process is I imagine, that I find it way too easy to skate by without putting in outstanding effort, and thus don't put in the outstanding effort because i get bored with an idea after it's been written.
ReplyDeleteI agree, when you are inspired you should write! And, then go back and rethink through your original thoughts.
DeleteWhen I start writing, I usually brainstorm first. Just to get ideas flowing and see what sounds good. I then put the ideas into an outline so I can visualize where everything should go, when I start writing. After that, I sit down and just going at it, putting down whatever sounds great. In the end, I write about three drafts. To revise my drafts, two people read it. Most of the time one of them is a teacher. I like having people read my piece because sometimes when I read it, I just skim and miss easy mistakes. And when I feel I have an amazing piece, I'll read it a lot and see where I stumble. If I don't, I know that it is good to go. I believe my strength is giving details about specific moments. One of my weakness is changing words from simple to intelligent words, that still have the same meaning. Writing assignments that require many things usually are fits for me. Otherwise most assignments are okay. My only trick is using Microsoft Word, making sure words are spelled right.
ReplyDeleteI agree about the outline, it is helpful to be able to see your piece in a way other than drawn out paragraphs.
DeleteWhen I start a paper, I write all the thoughts that come to mind down first, and later try to organize them and tie them together. Opening lines/paragraphs are tough, so I usually skip over that part and save it for when it gets easier to crank out decent writing. I reread my paper over and over, changing minute details here and there. I prefer to type my papers because it's SO much easier to play with ideas and change them. I usually don't have anyone else read my piece, but it would probably benefit me a lot more than only having my opinion on what I've written. I do read my papers out loud sometimes and it helps me find out what I'm trying to say. My biggest weakness is writing an intriguing opening sentence/paragraph. I don't like being given free reign when writing an assignment.
ReplyDeleteI do the same exact thing. What comes to mind first and details second. Though I find the opening to be the easiest for some odd reason.
DeleteThe way I write a paper is very strange. It takes me a really long time to try and figure out what I want to write about, but once I figure it out I can make some quality work. (I think) First I get an idea and then write all of the things I want to make sure are in my paper are down on a different paper. Once I get that I type a very rough first draft. After that I print out my paper and then I write all over it. When I do that I hand write a new copy of the notes and or corrections I made on the printed paper. I then type a new copy with all of my edited stuff included. I repeat this process over and over again until I get a paper that I actually like. It usually takes about three or four times.
ReplyDeleteI like your methods Abigail! I agree with what you have to say about scribbling all over the paper considering that i do that as well! I think that it is really good that you dont put up with your paper until you get one that you like because there is no point in turning in something that isnt your best work
DeleteIt takes me a while to figure out what I'm writing about to. But, then I really get flowing once I find a topic. So frustrating, isn't it?!? And, wow, that is quite the process. Interesting, but I like it!!!!
DeleteI do the same thing with brainstorming what I want to include in my paper.! It makes it easier to write it because you already know what you want in it so you can just think about how to word it.
DeleteI agree in that it takes me a little to think of a topic but once I think of one that I like then I can produce quality writing.
DeleteHow I write depends on the paper I am writing. If it is an essay for like an AP test I write on the paper anything that comes to mind that I will need to remember to include in my paper. I also write thesis ideas and kind of an outline for what I need to cover in the body paragraphs.
ReplyDeleteIf it is a creative piece, or a writing that I get to work on for a couple days I approach it much differently. I tend to think for awhile until I get an idea, and then I write it trying to form the type of paper I am trying to write. When I get my words that I want to portray in my paper onto the screen I then form it into a better flowing work of art. The base of the writing might only take 30 minutes but it might take a couple class periods to then work off that and form it into something worth writing. Also I never write on paper as long as I don't have to. If I want to write something i'd enjoy it has to be on a computer, as I am one of the kids who can hardly read their own handwriting.
As far as peer editing, it is hit or miss. I typically don't ask for it but I might let someone if I feel I could use some help. I can definitely see it is useful for things like grammatical errors or helping the writing flow better, but that is about all. I don’t like giving my input on their stories and fictional things. I like writing about things I know about and don’t have to research, and I sometimes like narratives or fictional stories, but I definitely dislike writing any type of poems.
I agree that I also change my process based on the type of paper I an writing. On AP tests, I usually plan it out a little more because that's all the chance I get and there's more riding on that one essay.
DeleteWhen I'm writing a paper, I can't just sit down and write, I have to be inspired. I simply wait for an idea to pop into my head. I know for some people that isn't the best method, but I am really good at putting words down on paper once I have an idea. If there is a close due date for a writing assignment, I will have to brainstorm a few ideas. If I'm still not inspired, I will usually just pick an idea that I brainstormed and roll with it. I like revising and editing because after you have had time to re-read your paper, you either have more to say, take out things that sound weird or add your own personal touch to make your writing yours. It gives your paper YOUR voice instead of just a voice in the background in your head when you add your own slang. My favorite papers to right are argument or persuasion papers!
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with you. I need to be inspired to get a good essay in my eyes or else it is just okay. I feel like I am actually talking with my reader then just giving them information.
DeleteWriting, to me, is a special kind of expression that shouldn’t be over worked. I find if I try to write too often or too much in a short amount of time, the final product suffers. So, when starting a piece I really have to be in the right mind set and find something that sparks my interest. It can be a word or a phrase that sets up the whole piece and I just build around that. I have a hard time writing something if I feel like I am forcing it out so I just play around with it and do something completely ridiculous and if I get lucky, something catches me and I can write something I enjoy.
ReplyDeleteI like writing a few beginnings. It usually takes a few tries to get the topic I am going to stick with. It really is about trial and error. I write something and see if I like or not. Then when I get something, I have to write in chunks. I write, then re-read, write some more, re-read again and then read it out loud and see how it flows. My best writing comes when I can just write how and what I want. I always write for myself, with the exception of when there is a tight rubric, but even then I tend to get fed up with things and start adding my own little things that make it slightly more enjoyable.
I find that having some people read my work is not helpful at all. They come up with things like “I like it” or “good job, nice paper” and that’s all they say. Not really very helpful. Or you get those people that tell you how many words you spelled wrong or that you forgot a letter here, which is slightly more helpful but it doesn't tell me if you understood what I was saying or if it flowed well enough for you. The best reviews are those that make comments about specific parts of the writing and make suggestions for improvement or other things that could be used.
I like how you begin your papers. It is always kind of hard to start it. What you said about peer editing is so true! -Allison Rumptz
DeleteThat's a good idea to write a multitude of beginnings, and then choose the one that works best for a person. I agree. But I disagree with the peer editing part. I think any piece of advice is good advice, and even if it's something like, I really liked it, then you can just take the compliment and have someone else read over it.
DeleteI agree with you about the mindset, if I'm not in the mood for writing I'll just sit there staring at the page. And I get the whole peer editing thing, drives me nuts.
DeleteMy writing process is really slow in the beginning then when I get a start I explode. I feel like every time I write I need to brainstorm. It takes me a long time to think of my topic I want to write about. Like for college essays it took me up to a week sometimes just thinking on and off about what I wanted to write about. But then when I have my idea (and my start because that is always hard for me to think of) I explode and I can usually get my rough draft very quickly. When I write my rough draft I just write and don't look back. Then when I get done I look back and start fixing all the little errors and start re-arranging the wording and the order and stuff. I then like to let lots of people see it and revise. Because through my writing life I have noticed I tend to say stuff that might not always sound right. I also am not so great with grammar so I always could use more help with that. Then before I print the final copy I read it aloud, so I slow down and say every single word and focus on the little things.
ReplyDeleteI agree. I always take forever to think of a topic. Once you know what you want to write about its easy to just explode on the topic.
DeleteWhen I am writing a paper, I first like to start out by making an ideas list for topics to write about. After I have chosen what I am writing about, then I make a semi-flow chart figuring out what I am going to write in my essay. Sometimes there are arrows and crossed out things, and other times I know exactly what I want to write about. Next, I write a rough draft-it's usually about a page-containing all of my thoughts and ideas. I then proceed to my final draft by adding lots more to my rough draft, and through the peer editing and self editing process. I then usually add more and tweak minor things to make it a good paper.
ReplyDelete-Allison Rumptz
. The process I've had for writing papers has helped me out through the years. My process includes three different drafts. In my first draft, i write down all my initial thoughts about the process. I write down what I think is good basic outline using my pure thoughts that come first as a starting point. Then, in my second draft, I arrange everything so that my writing has structure and doesn’t look like a bunch of scribbles all over the page. I take all of my ideas and put them together and in order. Finally, I change dull words out for more exuberant words in my third draft. I try and make the most intelligent sounding, professional, paper that I possibly can. I believe that a good writing piece has structure, intellect, and is clear to the reader what the paper is really all about. If your writing piece has these factors included in its content, you are sure to get a good grade.
ReplyDeleteAs much as I love trying to throw in "exuberant" words like you do (I totally used a thesaurus when typing my own post), I also have to keep in mind that it is a fairly small part of the process, and shouldn't necessarily have a whole draft dedicated to it. I agree that it is important to not sound like a clod in terms of vocabulary, but the umbrella that it fits under that you should really be looking for in a draft is flow. Big person words and fancy punctuation marks are fun to throw in, but if they just kill the momentum of a writing, they shouldn't be there. It's better to have an arguably painfully simple yet easily readable writing than an overly verbose and awkward one.
DeleteMy writing process varies depeneding on what kind of piece I'm writing and it also depends on the class. For history and science classes I usually just do one draft and briefly edit it before I turn it in. In high school you only get graded on the content for those classes and types of essays. For my English classes I start with one draft. I go through that draft several times, adding and taking things out. I also look for more sofistaicated words, etc. to enhance my writing. Then, once I think I've come up with a final draft I go back through my piece to make sure I don't have any gramatical errors. I don't like editing. I wish my writing could just be one and done, but then it wouldn't be any good. I always reread important papers outloud before I turn them in. That helps me a lot, I always realize tons of my mistakes when I do that. The easiest writing process for me is writing poems. Writing poems are easier for me than everything else. However, my editing process is different. I usually write a poem all in one sitting. I edit it as I write. Then I go through and maily edit my word choice. I could definitley work on improving my writing revision process. I think it will get better with practice. College essays are REALLY helping me improve with that.
ReplyDeleteI agree that I do a similar process for my writing depending on the class. Poems are my weakest strength. I do go through my English writing numerous times looking for better word choice and adding and taking things out.
DeleteI feel the same about how many times I draft and revise things depends on the content of the essay. Also, I think sometimes too much editing goes on for scientific writings that it loses meaning and is almost too difficult to read.
DeleteI always read my drafts aloud as well. It's a great way to catch mistakes you wouldn't otherwise.
DeleteTo me I can't feel confident about a topic until I start typing. Just getting words down on paper creates more ideas. Most times my original idea will have changed to something different. Once I feel confident about my idea I will then start revising and piecing the paper together. Its a lot of moving sentences around and creating flow between paragraphs. After I have structure that I am proud of I will start to word elevate and create syntax between sentences. Thinking about the audience and purpose while writing my papers helps me to mold the effect I am trying to portray.
ReplyDeleteI also find that if I write and revise AND complete a paper in the same day I am not happy with it. Looking at a paper with fresh eyes and a refreshed brain is very helpful, sometimes I find I didn't display exactly what I thought I did. Also, I usually have someone else read it for grammar and spelling errors, and also to question flood.
I'm the same way. I can't work on a paper start to finish in just one day and feel completely happy with it. I agree with needing to look at it again later with "fresh eyes".
DeleteI definitely agree about not writing a paper in one day. I feel a lot better about having time to work on it at my own pace and being able to look at it several times to make changes if I feel like it.
DeleteWhen I write a paper, I usually just wing it. I just sit down and type it out and when I finish it, it's done. I do not revise anything beyond spell check as a general rule. In my opinion, the first work I do is as good as it gets. I like to feel that I have finished a project, and when I have to go back in and revise my previous work, it becomes the most laborious task ever. So far in my life, just typing a rough draft and turning it in was good enough to get the grade I wanted. Now, that might change in the future, but I still haven't changed the fact that I really don't like revising. I do some of my best work when I'm fed up and trying to get things done. So, while I see the good that can come from peer editing and revising, I don't like to put in the work to get change the paper after that point.
ReplyDeleteyeah I usually wing it too and get my best work done when its the last minute and needs to be done. I also think its pretty unnecessary to have several drafts because small changes usually are enough to make the paper better.
DeleteNick, you read my mind perfectly. You see, this is why we're such good friends. It's because of our similar writing styles. I also just wing it and turn in my rough draft. Sometimes I don't even spell check it! But it's not like I'm lazy or anything. I just feel like my first draft was so good that I don't need to do another. I feel ya on this one
DeleteI've found that I write best when I just sit down and start typing. If an idea doesn't pop into my head right away, then I'll take time to brainstorm and come up with a list of potential topics to write about. After I have a general idea, I go. I prefer typing over hand-writing papers because I feel like I have more freedom to play with what I have, while staying organized. I can highlight certain parts that I'm not sure if I like or not, leave notes to myself, and add to/subtract from earlier paragraphs easily. As far as peer-editing goes, I have mixed feelings. Sometimes it seems like they're reading your paper solely grammatically and not paying attention to the story itself, and other times it's the story they're focused on and the grammar is completely ignored. If the teacher doesn't require peer-editing, I usually don't have a peer look over my paper. I think peer-editing would be most beneficial to me (and I would utilize it more often) if editors combined the grammar corrections with general storyline advice.
ReplyDeleteI feel the exact same way about preferring typing rough drafts over writing them out on paper. I feel like things flow a lot more and that there's much more freedom when it comes to typing. I tend to get stuck when writing it out.
DeleteI feel the same also. It is much more easier to highlight the maybe sentences, and the word choices that need to be fixed, then just scribbling them out. I like highlighting sentences I love, and things that need to be fixed, so I can continue the flowing through the paper.
DeleteMy writing process includes brainstorming ideas of what I'm going to write about. I enjoy writing personal narratives much more than informational essays, or persuasive essays. I like being able to make it my own and add in my own feelings and telling my story. I usually begin by typing out a rough draft and then edit it. I edit by reading it out loud and seeing if there's anything that might not make sense in my writing. I also make others read my paper to help make it better and maybe correct any grammar mistakes. I try to also be very descriptive and switch out the boring words to words that might sound better. My difficulty in writing is probably fixing some grammar mistakes, such as run on sentences or overuse of commas.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you when you say you like to write narratives over anything else. They are a lot easier to write and they are always a lot more fun to write as well. I also make others read my papers too. It makes me feel more confident when others read my papers because they tell you how to fix things and they also tell you what you did well.
DeleteThe way that I write a paper is first, I have to come up with an idea of what my paper is going to be about. For some reason, I always have a hard time coming up with ideas to write about. I never seem to have too many ideas, ever, but when that one idea pops into my head, I know it's the right one. When I finally figure out my topic for the paper, I can never seem to put the pen down. Most of the time, the words just continuously flow into my train of thought and they get written down on the paper. Normally, I start out with a really rough draft. When I first write out my papers, I don't pay attention to grammar, spelling, and sentence structures, I just write down whatever is in my head. After my rough draft, I go back and reread my paper and fix all of the easy spelling, grammar, and sentence mistakes. After I do that, I then look deeper into my paper and add better verbs, adjectives, pronouns, etc. I always like to make sure that someone else reads my paper as well because I want to make sure that my paper makes sense to other people besides just myself. My weakness is coming up with a topic, but my strength is when I have that topic, I can never seem to stop writing. I always do very well with very close and personal papers.
ReplyDeleteI can never come up with a topic either. Especially for personal narratives because I honestly don't find my life all that interesting to write about.
DeleteMy writing process begins with finding a good topic, or being given one. After that I begin to write, and I write until I have a full first draft. Sometimes I go back midway to fix obvious mistakes, but most of my editing happens after I write out the whole thing. I then print it out, and make marks and changes to my paper. Then, I go back on the computer and make changes according to what I have written down. Next I usually share it with a peer who I know will give me tips and criticism, helping me improve my paper. I then go back through it, looking for words that could be changed or replaced to make it a better piece. I make sure it is descriptive or persuasive, whichever it needs to be. Then I read it aloud, catching any small mistakes. Then it's done.
ReplyDeleteI do the exact same thing! I can't do like the different things to brainstorm, I just have to write. I agree 100% that peer revision is also super useful.
DeleteI usually start an essay by brainstorming my ideas. Then I just start writing. I don’t think too much about what I’m writing, I just get words down on paper. If I like what I wrote then I’ll stick with it and edit it, but if I don’t then I’ll just start over. When I edit it I like to read through it and make sure it all makes sense and see where I can add in details or strengthen phrases. I take out some of the boring words and replace them with fancier words that sound better. Sometimes I use a thesaurus or sometimes I can just think of words that sound better that I couldn’t think of in the first place. I like peer editing because you can get a fresh set of eyes to read it and tell you if it all makes sense of not.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with your thoughts on planning. I just like to get to the writing too.
DeleteI do a lot of the same things. I tend to write whatever comes to mind. As I draft more of my essay it becomes more concrete. I have to use a thesaurus often as well.
DeleteFor papers for the ACT and essays like that, I find it really helpful to outline ahead of time and vaguely plan out my paragraphs. However, for stories that have more of a story feel, I just start a draft by typing out the paper the best I can in one go. After that, I add revisions as I go. I might completely revamp the intro or conclusion, change the order of paragraphs, or add and take away sentences. After I do big revisions that change the feel of the paper, it's more of little details. I find it helpful to have other people read it, because the chain of events I write about will always make sense to me because I experienced it. However, peer editors didn't and can tell me if they understand the events occurring.
ReplyDeleteI also find it helpful when people read my essays or stories. I always miss grammatical errors that others notice. I also enjoy listening to people's comments on my writing. It helps give me ideas to make my work better.
DeleteI know what you mean, I always have to have someone look over it first. As you know, I am often very confusing and unclear. Sadly, I sometimes get really defensive and try to defend what I was going for, but...yeah.
DeleteWhenever I have to write a paper for school, the first thing I do is make a list of possible topics (when I get to choose). If I have a list of 4-5 things, I'll usually start writing about 2 of them to see which I like better, and then decide which paper I would like more in the end. I don't usually write in drafts because it takes me such a long time to write one version of my paper as is. If one day I write 2 paragraphs, when I go back to the paper the next day, if I'm really stuck, I'll just end up revising and rewriting a lot of what I've already written. From my initial writing, there are many changes to my paper. I never like what I write in the beginning. Once I feel like my paper is "done", I'll reread it over and over again because I know I'll find something else I want to change. When it's actually done, I quickly go through for spelling/grammar errors that spellcheck missed. Since we're usually in the same class (even though it might be different hours) a few my friends and I will share our papers on google and read through each others. Even if they don't find anything I could correct, it's just good to hear some positive feedback or suggestions for fixing anything that doesn't sound fluid, etc. Sometimes I hate the feeling of knowing my friends will be reading my paper though, especially when I don't think it's up to par. It's never easy to share my writing with others, even when I think it's some of my better work.
ReplyDeleteWhen I begin writing a big paper I typically start by making a list of points and events that I want to include in the essay. If I don't make a list, I tend to forget big ideas or details that I wanted to include once I start getting in the groove of writing. I've made the mistake of not jotting down ideas and just writing because I feel that I'll remember them once I get to a certain part in my paper where I feel it would be appropriate. However, I always forget. I'm a list maker. I've noticed that web planning doesn't really work for me. I don't know how my paper will flow until I am in the process of writing. I don't really plan the mood or tone until I am in the process of writing. I like it that way, there is less commitment and less structure for me to follow. I am one of those people who hates to revise. I don't like reading what I have written, I'm not sure why. Maybe because I always feel that what I've written is never good enough. When it comes to peer editing, I only feel comfortable having my friends or trustworthy people read my paper, especially when it's something personal. I cringe a bit when I watch people read my papers. However, I do find that peer editing is very helpful with grammatical help, general organizational advice, and the opinions of other readers.
ReplyDeleteI usually choose my friends to edit my papers because I know I can trust them. But when someone I don't know edits my papers I get really nervous, but sometimes they give the best suggestions.
DeleteWhen I begin to write a piece of writing, there is always some sort of idea already in my head, so I don't normally brainstorm ideas. Of course, if it's a piece of fiction, I'm constantly thinking of things to happen. But if it's an essay, I always seem to know exactly what I want to say.
ReplyDeleteI usually write one rough draft, and then after a few edits and peer revisions, I write the final draft. I really like having peer edits because they're extremely helpful. Even if it's something simple, like "That was really good." It's still a compliment, which can make you feel better about the piece.
I love writing fiction and my favorite type of essay is narrative. With each one, you can go wherever you want to go with it, and add as much description as you want. For me, description in a work of writing is like the piece's life blood. It's what propels the story forward. With other types of essays, I feel that there is not as much freedom to explore the words as much as there is with a narrative.
When I begin writing a paper, I usually just begin by starting the paper. I don't do any prewriting, I think of some major points I want to get down and then I just type. After I write, I reread it many times and then have someone in my family read it and make changes. I also like to have other people such as my friends or teachers read it and give me feedback. After I get some feedback, I make the changes and final touches.
ReplyDeleteI also have family members or friends edit my papers. It's always good to have an extra set of eyes to look at your piece.
DeleteI also just jump into my writing. If I think too much about my topic, then I start to begin doubting what I want to write about.
DeleteUsually when I write a paper and I'm not required to do any pre-writing or planning I just start the paper. Sometimes it takes me a while to choose a topic but once I have then actually writing the paper becomes easy. To choose a topic I usually try to make lists of things that would interest me and then go from there. Once I've chosen something and have started writing, I go back to reread what I have written very often so I can add more details to make it longer or sound better. Also I can take parts out that I don't like or that don't make sense or sound funny to me. By going back to reread my paper while I write it, I am able to do the drafting, editing, and finishing touches all at the same time.
ReplyDeleteThat sounds quite a bit like my process- Prewriting never seems quite necessary to me outside of the classroom.
DeleteI may not be a very talented writer, but I do enjoy writing stories and narratives. When I start writing, I usually open a document or grab some scrap paper and just write down whatever is on my mind. Once I get a few topics or the general idea on paper, I start to write down a few drafts. These first few stories are usually fairly simple and go straight to the point. When I edit, I replaced simple words by using a thesaurus and usually try to reread for errors. Sometimes I'll have a friend of family member read over my work to check for any errors or confusion. Tips I always keep in mind when writing is to avoid typing to many complex words. If your whole story is filled with to many "fancy" word choices, readers might have a problem understanding what you have written. Another tip I keep in mind is try to avoid being to simple. Readers can get very bored with reading if the beat of your writing is dull.
ReplyDeleteThat sounds great, Cailin! Writing stuff down really helps me, too... its easier for me to brainstorm that way!
DeleteWhen I hear of a writing project that I have to do, I usually have a few ideas right away. I start with writing the about the first idea, and when I get stuck then I move on to the next idea. When one starts flowing more then the other, then that is the one I choose. I always find it easier to edit on paper, then on the computer. I first scan through it looking for the easier fixes. Once that is done then I go looking for the harder things to fix. I prefer to edit by myself or with my close group of friends. I guess it just depends on what the topic is. Once the editing is done, I go back and fix it on the computer. I print it again and look for more errors to make sure I didn't add any when I was fixing the original ones. My spelling and word choice is the hardest thing for me. I like to write about pieces I can relate about, or show passion towards. I find persuasive writing hard, if I do not agree with the side the I have to write about. I find listening to music motivates me and inspires me to get things done.
ReplyDeleteI start my writing process by usually thinking about the topic for a while and then typing some initial thoughts on my phone. From there I list everything I want to include in my essay. Thereafter I begin my official paper. I try to remember to include all the necessary requirements to fulfill. I pick a grabber to start it and a conclusion to end it. I add all the details and make sure its the proper length. When I feel satisfied then I ask for someone to look over it. I ask them if there is any grammatical errors and fix them. Then I ask what I might want to include/explain things differently. I acknowledge the suggestions and act upon them. I revise and ask for more evaluations util complete.
ReplyDeleteMy weakness in drafting is writing a well rounded paper in enough time. If I had unlimited time and could edit the essay whenever, I would have a much better paper because I could pull things out of my everyday life.
My writing process is probably different than most. I usually just start writing, I might do some brainstorming but not all the time. I will usually only have one draft. I don’t like to make many improvements over a long period of time. I would rather get them all done at the same time. So, I will edit my draft and have markings on it then have my mom or dad edit it also. I don’t give my drafts to my peers even though they have the same or close to level of experience. While my parents have the same experience as to who is going to grade my paper. I know I am very good at describing events but I am really bad at grammar! I can’t do grammar for my life. I really like to do just regular stories to write. I don’t really know what type of writing style is my worse. One trick, I guess, that I use is that I go full out with my imagination and hold nothing back.
ReplyDeleteThat's a awesome thing that you can start writing without really brainstorming, and how you edit on the way instead at the end.
DeleteI always spend the most time coming up with something to write about. If I don't find a topic that truly interests me, my writing doesn't end up being as well written. Once that happens, I just sit down and write until I wrap up the main part of the essay. After that I leave it for a little while, and when I come back, I read through the entire thing adding details and looking for errors. I do this a couple times until I feel satisfied. Then I wait a little bit, until I read through the last time, aloud, listening for cluttered writing and other errors. I usually don't find a peer editor, but when I do, they usually have helpful suggestions and find things that I missed. I really enjoy being a peer editor because you can see what the writer is trying to say and hopefully help them to do it.
ReplyDeleteWhen I write something I dont usually like to do any pre-writing. I feel like my writing flows better if it just comes straight through my thoughts to my writing. That being said if I am writing for a certain piece of writing like a test/essay I may just jot some things down to gather my thoughts. Sometimes when I write a piece about different experiences I like to play some different music that might get me motivated. As far as drafting goes I do like to write a draft than look at it a little while later maybe a few days after and see if I want to change anything. This is a good method for me but I know it probably does not work for everyone. I like writing but not when it feels forced.
ReplyDeleteI agree, I usually don't do any pre-writes or anything either. It flows better when it comes from your thoughts.
DeleteGenerally, I don't do much of anything in the way of pre-writing. I usually just choose something and jump right in, especially for narratives. When I'm writing my essays for AP Bio I will often do a basic outline on a piece of lined paper so that I know where I'm going with each point. I find that the best way for me to write a piece like we are doing in class right now is to get it all out on the paper first, then go through and revise it myself. I'll change my word choice, adjust dialogue, fix silly errors, and just proofread it myself. Usually my drafts change dramatically from my first draft to my second draft. My second draft is usually what I give to classmates to read, and after getting their suggestions I'll edit it myself a second time. This then becomes my third draft. I'll give this one to my mom or teacher and ask them to proofread for grammatical and spelling errors that may have slipped past my classmates and I. I'll make the necessary changes, and that becomes my final draft.
ReplyDeleteWhen I write a paper I usually know what I'm going to write about before I write it. It also depends on what kind of paper I’m writing to know exactly what I want to write, because sometimes it takes me a long time to find a good topic. I don't really like to do outlines because I never use it. Sometimes I like to write down what I’m brainstorming but most of the times I just write or type everything down and once I’m done I read over it and fix my mistakes. Then I pick a person that I know will be honest with my paper to edit it and usually I take their advice. I will then write my final copy of the story with the suggested advice from my editor and add on extra details if it’s needed.
ReplyDeleteI also never use outlines. Id rather just pick a topic and go with it.
DeleteFor me writing is less of a process and more of a flow of words. I rarely do any sort of pre-writing. Most of the time I just sit down and type a draft and then am done with it until peer review. After getting my work reviewed I'll go back and reread my piece and fix anything I need to. However, although I only type a draft once I spend an extensive time picking out details and word choice. I like creating a type of rhythm to my writing. I will spend time looking up synonyms trying to find the best word to use. Writing to me is like second nature so a process is more like a habit to me. Asking me about how I write is like asking a musician how they create emotions in music. It's a natural part of who I am, like my dominant hand or the color of my eyes.
ReplyDeleteI agree with this and I also like to look back on my paper and focus on word choice and details.
DeleteMY technique of writing is to simply write. I hate the web diagrams and all the "pre-writing" nonsense. I would rather just sit down, think about the topic at hand and bust out a page or two. It's the easiest way for me to really focus on my paper and my mind just works better that way. When I try to do all those pre-write workshops it usually never turns out well, because when I begin actually writing about them, I get bored. I always need to know that what I'm writing about is something that I enjoy, or else I can't become very enthusiastic about it and the papers usually turn out like garbage. My favorite form of writing is either poems or fictional stories. I love creating characters and lives of people because it's just such an incredible feeling to invent humans and lives that seem so real and believable, you almost feel like you know these people personally. I really enjoy writing, I wish I had more free time to do it. not that it's extremely time consuming, I suppose I just never feel motivated to do much of anything after I'm through with everything else. Anyway, I like to just free write as a pre-draft when I write papers,
ReplyDeleteWhen I write an essay, I spend some time brainstorming. Usually when I brainstorm, I type those ideas out. I might quickly expand on each ideas to get them 'running' and then see which one i like the best and which way might be easiest for me to write. Then I usually just go for it (but if I'm having trouble writing then I do an outline.). I write about a page and go over it and start editing. Then I continue and just go over it a few times to check grammar mistakes and ways to improve what I wrote. Reading it out loud really helps me. I usually have my dad read it since he's really good at English, and I'll read it out loud to my mom because she always has good input and is good with tone.
ReplyDeleteI agree on everything you have written! I do all the same things!
DeleteI don't really have a specific process I do when I write a paper. I usually just write the paper freely. And then I reread it and add more detail, along with proof reading as I go through the paper. I am not a very strong writer nor do I enjoy writing. I feel as though I never have anything to write about and I'm not very creative. I am a decent proof reader but other then that I don't have any good writing skills. I usually just revise my first draft instead of rewriting my original draft. I find it helpful when other people read it and give feedback and advice.
ReplyDeleteWhen I start to write a paper I usually do listing as my pre-writing technique. It's really fast and easy to list off the things I want in my paper. Also later I don't leave anything out and it's easier to make sentences. I usually only make one rough draft. Mostly because that's all I have time for. For revising I usually read through it myself and make changes and I do that twice. Then I read it out loud and record my voice so I can listen to how it sounds. I usually have my dad edit it also. And sometimes I have a friend read it but usually I revise it at home. The weaknesses of my writing process is that I hardly ever write in class because I get distracted. I usually write when I listen to music so I can zone everything out and I can't do that at school well. I do well with writing pieces that are specifically assigned to me rather than coming up with my own topic. I don't like talking about my personal experiences. I really like found poems.
ReplyDeleteI do the same thing! I have my dad usually edit my papers because he has really good insight on writing papers. I also read my work out loud too to see the mistakes I made.
DeleteI don't know that I've ever written a paper that I found formal enough to bother going through the whole pre-writing/revision process outside of an English class. In other words, I've been content just doing whatever the teacher has told me to do with regards to that stuff. I'm actually kind of glad we receive all this instruction because I don't know how I'd go about doing it otherwise. If I were to be placed in a situation where I had to get from faint idea to final draft without the training wheels, here's a rough idea of what I'd do: brainstorming is kind of a given. I mean, I'm not sure I could write a paper without actually thinking about it first. Outlining is pretty cool too. It's a nice way for me to get organized and figure out what details I'd like to include. Then once a draft is thrown together, I'd read it--both in my head and aloud--until I feel it is worthy of the eyes of another. Now, I know peer revisions may work for some, but I've never been crazy about them. I don't intend this to sound arrogant in any way, but I think people have a hard time understanding my writing, so it's frustrating for me to see suggestions that arise from a simple misinterpretation of my intentions. I've never gotten anything out of them. That being said, I do appreciate instructor feedback. In this way, I can learn what is expected in whatever writing I'm doing and what is wrong with it, giving me the direction I need to bring it through the home stretch. I've never really thought about this before, so there may be more or less that I do each time I write, but I think this is a fairly good summary of what I find helpful.
ReplyDeleteMy writing process usually consists of brainstorming ideas of what I want to write about. I then have little lists within the main topics to give me ideas to potentially write about. I feel that by doing that I have things to work off of and can expand upon the mini thoughts. I usually edit several times and have my mom read it and have her tell me if something doesn't sound right. Having someone else read it to who isn't going to lie to me and tell me its perfect when its not really helps me. I like the questions and help that people give. I really want it to be the best it can and others reading it helps me a lot. If one person can't understand it, most likely someone else can't. I like to read it out loud to myself once and then for someone else and that's when I usually catch my mistake of putting "the" instead of "then" or the wrong tense of a word. In the end there is a lot of revision and reading before I am finished! But its all worth it once it's complete.
ReplyDeleteWhen I have to write a paper, my first approach is to get all of my ideas written down. Once I know all of the ideas I want to put into the story, I will figure out what paragraphs they will go in and I will connect the ideas I have. The next step I would take is to write out the first draft. I try to have somebody proofread it and make sure I don't have any grammar errors or I like them to tell me what they think I can add to it to make it better. Doing a freewrite before the rough draft can also really help to get all of the ideas down and make sure you don't miss anything. If I find myself not being able to have ideas flow easily, I change topics. I figure that if I'm not excited to write a paper, the topic may not be the topic that I should write about.
ReplyDeleteMy writing process starts with me just typing what comes to mind. Then I reread and add imagery. I find myself rereading my essays a lot, adding little details or taking out things that don't seem right. I personally prefer people to look over my essay, because they tend to catch the little details I read over. But, they also give me details on how I can make it stronger and what parts are lacking. Google Docs helps me a lot, because I can share it and people can look at it whenever. Then I don't have to worry about looking for the hard copy or struggle reading their hand writing.
ReplyDeleteMy writing process includes minimal steps. I read the prompt and immediately begin writing. I'm not to fond of brainstorming or pre-writing. Normally, I have one idea in mind for a topic. For me, it's more practical to simply begin writing. After I feel I have a substantial paper, I go through and edit my piece. This includes using tools like thesaurus.com and I look closely to fix my mistakes. Majority of the time, I have someone else read it like my mom or dad. I find that this writing process is effective for me. What I could work most on is the proper use of commas, transition words and thesis statements.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Audrey. It sounds like we have the same writing process.
DeleteFor me it really depends on the subject I am writing about. If I am interested in it then I just write. I just try to get as many words out as I can, and then after I am done I go back and look for errors and try to improve my vocab. I like to read my draft out loud to look for mistakes, and I think it helps me to have someone else look over it in case there is something I keep missing. I haven't found brainstorming to help me because I normally just have one topic in mind and that is what I want to write about.
ReplyDeleteWhen I write a paper, I don’t really have a process other than just writing. But that can vary depending on the topic. If it is something like and opinion paper, I just go for it and start writing. If it is more like a research paper or something along those lines, I gather plenty of information until I’m very familiar with the topic first, then I begin to write. After I complete my first draft, I re-read the whole thing (sometimes on paper, sometimes right off the screen) and make critique notes to myself along the way. After I’m done reading, I follow those notes to improve my first draft and make my second draft. I repeat this process a few times and also ask for my dad to proof read it to see if there are any grammar or spelling errors that I may have missed. I work best with fiction when it comes to writing. Part of that is because it is coming from my own head and I don’t need to rely on any information besides my own. Another part is that I have a great amount of freedom to take the story to anywhere I wish it to be taken.
ReplyDeleteFor me to write a really good paper i have to be able to write about what I like to write about. I can't be given a specific topic. For examples: write about love. If the topic is pick a word and write about it I think I can write very well! To start all my papers i just write about what i am going to talk about first, then i go back and really focus on making paragraphs and keeping key things together. Then I go back and fix words that could be different and spelling errors. It helps a lot getting the opinion of someone else.
ReplyDeleteWhen I write a paper I usually just go for it. Usually if I try to do a rough draft it just sucks and makes me depressed. I figure if I can make a final draft within a couple hours and turn it in the next day and get an A on it, then why not? To me, rough drafts are a waste of my time and paper. Most of the time I don't struggle to come up with ideas and what to write about. Although, sometimes when its a subject I am not really interested in, I just make it all up. Half of the things I write about for school are untrue. I figure it makes it more interesting. I think peer revision is sometimes helpful, other times I don't want people to be reading my writing and critiquing it.
ReplyDeleteThey way I write, would be that I care more about the topic and quality, but then the topic has to be good for the quality to be great.(that may be confusing) When I start, I just write down a bunch of topics and thoughts that are running through my mind. I don't really have a technique, but just scattering ideas. The best way that works for me would be brainstorming for a long time. When I am editing I will read it out loud i would add and take out, or even switch sentences around to make the story flow. It actually does help me when a peer reads it because then you know what the listener can hear what is wrong with what sentences. My weakness would be on how to start! My strength would be to have a great ending. I enjoy every piece of writing, but the hardest for me to write would be to write about myself and the past...
ReplyDeleteThis sounds a lot like my process, and it also sounds like we have the same struggles. But, I have trouble with endings, along with beginning the story.
DeleteI usually start out my writing process by writing a list of ideas for topics. It's the part I find the hardest about writing. I've never found a topic I am completely happy to write about to this day. After I have my topic I'll jot some ideas in chronological order (like a less formal outline). Then I basically write the rough draft. I like to keep a note pad by me to write down random ideas or good words as I write so I don't forget them (which happens easily). Once I've completed the rough draft I read it to myself to catch any obvious mistakes or weird wording. This is a good idea to do aloud because when you read it silently you tend to fill in the mistakes in your head. Then I have either a friend or parent look at it to catch anything I've missed. I then add finishing touches and I'm done. (I should probably do more in between the rough and final draft but I'm never sure what to do).
ReplyDeleteMy writing process is slow and painful but mostly painful. It takes me a long time to think about what to write, and when I do the introduction is the hardest part. I usually only create one draft, and I just work upon that one if possible. Once I finish with the first draft, I hesitantly have a peer edit it (because sometimes it makes the draft more difficult and doesn't really help) and make necessary corrections and do some self editing. I tend to do better with writing assignments that have specific instructions that tell me exactly what to do. I struggle with Mr. Theune writing assignments because I'm not very creative, but I think they're fun regardless. I wish that I had special writing tricks to make the process go faster but I lack the necessary creativity skills to do so.
ReplyDeleteTheune writing assignments were nice because they gave all the freedom necessary but at the same time it was too much freedom, like it's hard to do a project when the instructions are literally "do whatever you want about whatever you want". So where I don't like too much instruction, such as a very specific topic, I do need a small amount of guidelines.
DeleteMy writing process is not complex. Usually it takes me a long time to come up with a topic and then when I do decide on one, I have an internal debate over whether or not I actually want to use that topic. I usually end up sticking with it, and then I'll have spurts of motivation and I'll write a ton during those periods, but when I'm not in one it is a very intense struggle. Like right now I'm procrastinating hard on this narrative essay. I hate having set drafts, I'd much rather the editing process be ongoing, and I don't do well with specific topics.
ReplyDeleteI know exactly how you feel! If I'm not in sync I can't write anything for the life of me. It's horribly stressful, but worth it just for the moments I can transfer my thoughts to paper effortlessly.
DeleteI agree with all of this completely. My editing process never stops; even if it's just a draft I'll find myself trying to edit every little sentence. And I can only write when I'm in the mood (which is only like 40% of the time). Like some days in Theune's class I would get absolutely nothing done because I just wasn't in the mood.
DeleteWhen I write a paper I usually never really do any pre-writing or rough drafts. I usually just think for a little while about what I'm going to write about and then just start typing it out. I look for errors as I go and try to make things flow as well as I can. When I'm done with it though I usually read it again and change things around to make it sound better.
ReplyDeleteI guess I don't really have different drafts. I just read through it again and again to make adjustments. Now that everuthijg is on the computer,I don't see the need to make multipe drafts.
DeleteI do a very similar process, I tend to write and revise at the same time, and normally dont have a distinct rough and final draft.
DeleteI'm kind of the same way, I usually keep one draft that I just keep adding on to, changing various parts, as well as just editing it as I write.
DeleteWhen we first get a writing assignment, I immediately think of what I could write about. I usually come up with one pretty quick, and usually that first idea is what my paper ends up being about. But, when we actually start getting the time to think and work, I always make a list of topics that could work. Under each main topic, I make small points for each detail I could use to meet the criteria of that specific assignment. Once I decide on my topic, I just start writing. I try to get as many of my ideas on paper as I can. My process is quite simple, actually.
ReplyDeleteFor the writing assignment we're doing in class now, I really liked the "Pre-Writing" exercises we did, using sensory words and doing the free ten minute write. That actually really helped when I had to go back and type out the full story, so I might add that to my writing process.
I do do exactly what you do when it comest to getting writing assignments. I think of what to write about, list them, then pick out a topic.
DeleteI have always been frustrated with the methods implemented by teachers since second grade to organize our writing processes, having never adhered to any of the pre-writing techniques like listing, outlining, or web clusters. My tactic to write is fairly simplistic-- I free-write, which to me, means that I just dive in head first and try to get all my thoughts out. Unfortunately, I hate writing that doesn't flow well or has obvious grammatical errors, so my prose ends up being heavily edited while I'm writing it until it resembles a polished work after I've only completed my original product. So generally, more than two drafts aren't necessary. I enjoy sharing my writing and getting critical feedback that helps me better my work, because anything with my name on it must be something I can be proud of. Yet, I tend to have crippling bouts of writers-block or an inability to find a topic to ramble about and writing even a sentence is like ripping off fingernails. It's frustrating and makes me panic-- which is even more counterproductive-- because I worry about failing to make deadlines. But when I'm in the zone, my fingers are fairly /itching/ for a pen, and the words flow so easily that I'm giddy. I'm fine with extremely specific topics, however I tend to like to do a twist on the guidelines to be original. If they are too vague though, I will be completely lost and have no idea what to do, but I won't ask for help because I'm terrified of appearing week-- it's a character flaw of mine. But that's what writing is like for me.
ReplyDeleteI've noticed that even your blog posts are well thought out! (:
DeleteI also have the same problems of writer's block and just sort of writing instead of focusing on outlining, webs, lists, etc... to me it is basically a waste of time. I also tend to edit while writing instead of editing it all afterward.
Usually, I just free-ball it and see what happens. I start off with an idea and if it seems plausible, I continue. From there, I snowball ideas of how to go on and take the easiest path.
ReplyDeleteSometimes I screw up on a first idea and have to start over, like this one time, I wrote this internet piece that my sister told me was good but not for the time. I ended up writing this really depressing piece about bullying that I still haven't finished, but the funny part is that I eventually used the first essay instead. But yeah, now I have this incomplete essay that I may never use, but sometimes that needs to happen to grow and expand experience and the like.
I have to be passionate about what I write for it to be a piece worth reading. Sometimes when people say to BS an essay, I always envy them because I can't. I can't ramble about nothing and make it pass because it is beyond my ability to do so. Maybe it's a good thing, but it would have really helped me on the AP Bio exam, eh?
I do the same thing!! Some times I'll start on one topic, then switch to another. then decide that I dont really like my new topic and just go back to my first topic.
DeleteI do this a lot too. Sometimes I'll even get bored of what I'm writing about even though I might have been happy with the topic when I started writing. It's a rough habit but it keeps me on my toes and gives me some really good ideas for future papers.
DeleteI'm a total perfectionist with everything I do; therefore, when I write, I try and make my rough draft something I'm quite comfortable with. I do a little list of topics and key points before I start, so I don't forget what's important. My mind tends to burst with ideas when I'm given a creative assignment, so it's good to write it all down. I can be really forgetful. I sort through my sentences as I write and try to make good word choices from the start. I feel like the steps from a rough draft to a final draft should be as minimal as possible. Rough draft revising is for changes that will make my paper the best it can be. It drives me crazy to just keep writing without correcting errors. I have to run the sentences through my head before I write them down.
ReplyDeleteI, myself, tend to write quite scatterbrained, so lists of key points and topics i want to cover are good for creating a rough draft. Also, once i get done with the rough draft, i tend to go back and add things i forgot while making the 'key points' list and such after i complete my first draft.
DeleteFirst I start brain storming ideas that I would like to write about. Then from there I think about what or how I would start writing the idea and then decide what idea I like best.That process usually takes a while and on occasion I will have a topic picked out quickly. Once I have my Idea chosen, I take some time and do some more brain storming and jot down the things that come to mind that I feel have real importance to my paper. Then I start on my paper. I don't really like to do the whole rough draft paper thing because I find it inefficient. While I am writing, I like to use a thesaurus to find more interesting words that will grab my readers attention. I like to have a friend or my mom read over my paper for spelling and grammatical errors, as well as advice.
ReplyDeleteWhen I write I usually have to know what I want to write about first. I'm not the kind of writer that can just write about anything by just writing their thoughts. I have to know what my whole paper is going to sound or look like before writing the first sentence. I think I do this so I will know if I have enough to write about in for my paper. With that being said, I usually don't do any sort of prewriting. The most that I do for pre writing is a really sloppy draft just to get my ideas down. I would rather spend my time on the paper.
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DeleteI'm very indecisive about choosing a topic, so that usually takes up a lot of my time before I even begin to write. And when I finally do I don't find myself doing a whole lot of organization before I start writing. I usually just brainstorm in my head a bit before I start a draft then I just try to get as many of my thoughts onto the paper as I can. Normally I'll go sentence by sentence or just a few at a time; first just writing straight from my head then going back and refining it. When I finish a paragraph I go back and try to polish it up even more. I do this until I'm finished with my draft then I'll edit it as a whole. I really like peer revision because half the time I can't catch my own mistakes even during my own revisions.
ReplyDeleteI like a good amount of freedom when writing because I think too specific guidelines restrict creativity. I know a lot of people had a difficult time in Theune's class because the amount of freedom might have been a bit overwhelming. But, I really enjoy having endless options for writing even if it might take me a while to decide on what to write about.
I like to start off writing a paper by just jumping into one idea i have and not reading it or looking at grammar and spelling until I'm done or out of ideas. Sometimes I'll get stuck on an idea and either just not like what I'm writing about, or run out of things to say which means i need to change to a different idea. I don't like doing different types of prewriting to get me started, but if I'm struggling with ideas for what to write about, then brainstorming about different ones can help. After I've gotten my rough copy, I can go over it and check for all the grammar and spelling mistakes and find which parts i like and dislike. After that its good to have someone else read your paper and then you can decide with their help what parts need to be changed or it out if they don't make sense.
ReplyDeleteMy writing process is really one of a kind. I try to have be organized, but every time it's the same thing. I have the hardest time coming up with a topic. I usually choose one that I'm not crazy about, and then half way through I think of the best idea. So I start all over then just write, and for some reason that's when my best writing comes to me, when I don't preplan it. I just go so quickly and I'm done in an hour. Then I spend more time sending it to teachers and students and listening to their feedback. This is also a big part of my writing. I love hearing what teachers have to say and help me get better. Then I apply that to the rest of my writing. So, when people ask what my writing technique is, I really don't have one. It's just to get a topic that inspires me and gets me excited for writing.
ReplyDeleteI always hate changing topics right in the middle of a paper. But when you get a great idea you just have to go with the flow and hopes it turns out okay!
DeleteI don't particularly enjoy writing. I am more of a reader. When I do write, I just sort of do. I don't have a specific way of doing it or a "technique" per se, instead I spend a great deal of time struggling to come up with a topic, then I simply write. At first it isn't very organized, but once I have my basics down I can add to it to create a more enjoyable piece. One of my main problems is my lack of creativity. To try and combat this problem, I reread my (very rough) piece many times over and add adjectives and change any words that don't contain much "oomph" or description. I really love peer editing. Without it my writing pieces would be awful. I don't mind when people are brutally honest with my papers because it only makes the paper better. One thing that I always do routinely is read my "final" piece out loud to make sure it all sounds correct. Oftentimes I find little mistakes or have better ideas so then I fix them.
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When writing a paper I always brainstorm for ideas and free write. Then when I have an idea, I just start writing. I don’t focus on the details, I just write until I just can’t anymore. So in a way you can say that is my first rough draft. After that I go back to the beginning and start editing. I elaborate on events, fix any grammar issues, and once I am finished with that, I usually have either my mom or dad look over my work. I am a firm believer on peer or especially adults help and edit my work. I love a second opinion on things because I know I’m not perfect. Once they have edited my paper, I go over it again by re-reading it out loud and in my head, making sure it makes sense, and add a few extra touches to make it presentable. My favorite kind of writing would have to be essay’s that are based on my life. It’s very easy to write and I know I will do a good job on it because it’s my life and not someone else’s. I am able to get all of the details of that paper exactly right.
ReplyDeleteNormally when I write, I tend to start out brainstorming. I like to brainstorm different topics that I could write about, then I choose the topic. Normally if I don't have to, I don't really write a rough draft. I start out by writing my paper. Once i'm done, I just normally read it over and make the corrections that I need to make. When it comes to editing, I usually read it out loud to myself and then correct the things I need to. I do this until my paper sounds right to me. I dont really like to have my peers edit my paper because I dont really like it when other people read my papers. I usually am not really good at writing creative papers because I am not good at being creative. I'm pretty good at writing science type papers because they just include facts. I don't really have any tricks that I could share because I normally just wing it.
ReplyDeleteWhen I write a paper for anything, I feel like trying to find a catchy beginning to start it off is the hardest part. I usually have a pretty good idea of what I am going to write about before I begin, but then putting it into words that make people want to read it is tricky. I usually go through just writing what ever comes to mind as my first draft. It looks crazy messy but it normally turns out pretty good in the end. Next, I would sort what I wrote into paragraphs; mixing different sentences, and figuring out what sounds best. I normally have my Mom look it over before I turn it in because she isn't afraid to tell me if something doesn't sound right. Whenever we do peer revision in class no one ever really tells the truth about someone else's paper. They say it is perfect but then you go home, read it out loud, change like the whole thing, and realize that the peer revision did nothing. Writing papers are and should be a long process. You catch many mistakes when you read it over multiple times and you also change things to make them sound better when you read it out loud. Those are the crazy things i do when I write my papers.
ReplyDeleteI defiantly have to have a good introduction in order to write the rest of my paper too!!
DeleteI agree! If I have a powerful introduction statement, I have a lot more drive to continue to write my paper and make it the best that I can.
DeleteThe way I write a paper is that I'll start with an introduction then go into the body. I will then go and sort of bulk of the intro and the body by adding more descriptive words and adding sentence where needed. The I may do a counter argument paragraph giving the opposition their say. From then I go to the ending which is typically only two or three sentences total in length. After all that is finished I proceed to grammatical errors. Then Finally I decide on what would be a good title for my writing
ReplyDeleteI like the way you go at it Ryan, good work!
DeleteI find my writing process to be extremely simple, maybe a little too simple. I usually get my prompt or assignment, and take a while just to come up with some ideas. sometimes if im fairly unsure of what i want to do, i will make some sort of list or visual representation of my ideas. If i am sure what i want to write about, i just get down to drafting. I tend to revise as i write in this first stage of drafting, rereading the peice multiple times before it is even over. When i finish my rough draft, i then go back for some overall pretty heavy reveision, normally adding on entireley new parts or taking some parts out completely. I then finish this draft, have someone (my mom normally) proofread my paper, and then fix my grammatical mistakes to end up with my final draft. I find that this process works for me because i benefit from kind of letting my mind really explore new ideas and ways to write throughout the entire writing process.
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I have a very similar writing process. Visualize what you want to write about then get to drafting.
DeleteWhen a teacher announces we are starting a paper, as soon as I hear what the topic or genre is, I stop paying attention and start to think about my topic. I never have a choice of what to write about, it just hits me and my brain can't change the subject. I begin writing as soon as I get a minute; sometimes I even start writing while the teacher is talking, which is probably not a good idea. I get very into my writing and tend to not want to stop. I have a very specific voice in my writing, and have been told this many times. Because of this, when people suggest wording things certain ways, I rarely ever take their advice. As soon as I have a rough draft, I print it off. I read it aloud, and give it to my parents. They add comments to the ones I have already made on my copy and I ask them questions. Once I sift through all of the comments and answers, I change portions of my essay to make more sense or create certain emotions. I am usually done with my essay after having someone else read it one more time. I would have to say my favorite pieces are personal narratives. I have a lot to say and like people to feel what I was/am feeling. I want people to know my story the way I do. I have a hard time with persuasive writing because I like to tell stories, not to get someone to pick a side on something.
ReplyDeleteThere is several things that I do to prepare myself to write a paper or an essay. Sometimes I make a draft. Then, I revise and edit the draft. Also, I have a peer or a teacher look over it, critique it and give me feedback. Lastly, I make my finall draft and that is it. Other times I do not make a draft and I just write what is on my mind and that is my final essay. I do like doing that method because It seems to me I write better essays that way. That is just me though. I do not like making more than two drafts to write an essay. I feel that there is no need to. I love doing more creative writing and having that freedom of being able to write what you want and show as much emotion or feeling as you want. I do not like having a rubric of things you absolutely need to have in an essay. I like being able to have the freedom of writing in your own style.
ReplyDeleteMy writing depends on the project. The first time I hear about the project, one of two things happen. Either A) I'm super excited and I already know what I'm writing about within the first ten minutes. Or B) I think that the project is lame and I have absolutely no clue what to write about. Now if we're going down path A, then get out of my way because I need to write that rough draft while my ideas are hot. There's no pre-writing. There's no planning. I'm just writing and when I'm done, then I'll revise it. What I will do is write it first by hand, and then type it for my final draft. This lets me read it out loud and edit as I go.
ReplyDeleteNow if we're going down path B, then I'll pre-write just to get some ideas going. I'll brainstorm and make vocab lists and whatnot, but all I'm really doing is trying to figure out something to write about. All I'm trying to do is get back on path A so that I can write something enthusiastically and with passion.
When I start to write a paper I have to sit done with a notebook and pencil and just write all my thoughts down know exactly what I'm writing about. Once I get ideas down I just write out the story and connect things and then I go back and edit words and take out things or add things. I write multiple drafts before I get the paper I want to use and my dad is always my chief editor. The pieces that I tend to do well on are pieces that I can write about whatever I want to write about because the.n I end up writing about something I'm passionate about and I can stick on topic. Right now my biggest weakness is staying on topic for a specific essay... The college essay for msu. I can't seem to stay on topic and its getting frustrating. A lot of the time when I write its about something important to e or something that's a big part if me, so pere that are research papers or papers about persuading someone to tak a side are hard for me because I write from the heart and I write to open up to people, not tell them how they should think.
ReplyDeleteI remember in elementary school when teachers would give you certain things to do to organize your writing. I remember one that looked like a house that represented the main topic, examples, supporting details, and then the closing. I think that those helped me out a lot when I was younger because it helped me keep my writing organized and neat. But now I would just find that kind of a waste of time. When I have to write, I like to just write. I don't do much pre-writing besides some bullet points that help me remember the main things I want to write about. My biggest problem when it comes to writing is figuring out what to exactly write about. If I get to write about something that I am passionate about and have a lot to say about it, then I enjoy my writing and it is bound to turn out well. But if I'm forced to write about something I don't necessarily enjoy, I wont like my writing. I do like when I have someone or a couple people look over my writing. It helps me get new ideas and helps me make my writing better. When it comes to vocabulary, I like to just write and use simple words, then go back and switch those words with something more descriptive. Writing is good and a great way to share your feelings!
ReplyDeleteI'm not the best writer. I get a lot of writers block. To get ideas I start off with a list to get the write idea, but after that it is basically chaos. I start out with a long free write to get everything that I have in my head onto the paper, and then I read through to be sure I didn't for get any more details or spots. After that I decide to go back through and add detail, such as sensory words. Then editing until I feel that it is done!
ReplyDeleteDude i know what you mean, you just got to go for it and see what you get then revise the crap out of it until it looks good. but i feel you on that one for real bruh.
DeleteMy writing process can be very complicated depending on the freedom provided. If the assignment is strict, I might have an easier time but if there's not really any boundaries, I second guess my decisions frequently. In general, I write down the ideas that pop into my head in that moment. I usually don't have a large variety but I'm always able to pull something different out of each topic. Writing a few sentences for each option is helpful and gives me a feel for how the essay will play out. My rough draft isn't too different from my final but I'm very precise with how I want each piece to look. I take a lot of notes and make a lot of grammatical and punctuation changes. I use the thesaurus quite a bit and I really like having tools like that when I'm busy writing a paper. For this particular essay, I liked the idea of the job sheet and I used it as a reference often, espeically when I wasn't too sure about the topic I chose. I edit like crazy until I feel confident but I'm always changning the things I've already changed. There's a lot of anxiety but it's all worth it in the end.
ReplyDeleteThe way I write a paper is kind of frowned upon in a lot of english classes. The that i have found that really works for me and gives me the best result, as a writer, is to just dive in and just go for it. I absolutley do not enjoy any prewriting techniques. I personally just have no use for them. If i am forced to participate in such things I end up forcing myself to write about the topic i chose in a very forced way. I just like to let the creative juices flow and hack out my writing piece from with in my own thoughts and then fix up the mistakes and craft a really nice looking paper from no preplanning before. I personally perfer to just go for it, and see what happens. Also if im really excited about the topic im writing about then i can whip a really solid first draft up in no time at all. If I abslutley hate the topic i will have a poorly crafted piece that looks and feels forced when read by the reader.
ReplyDeleteWhen I begin to write a paper I tend to spend a day just brainstorming about what I want to write about. After brainstorming, I spend time free writing to get all my ideas down on paper. I only focus about getting down all my thoughts, not grammatical errors. When all my ideas are down on paper, I reread what I have written out loud, helping correct errors by listening. After I have read the paper myself, I have several other eyes look at my paper to gain other opinions. The more eyes that look at your paper the better it usually becomes. When this process is completed my paper is usually a final product. The weakness for this writing process is that it is fairly time consuming, and high school essay deadlines don't allow nearly enough time for a real final draft to be constructed.
ReplyDeleteI like your writing process. I think having other people read your paper too is a really good way to edit!
DeleteWhen I write a paper, I like to have a lot of time to think of a good idea that fits the characteristics of what I need to be writing about. Once I think of an idea, I like to make main ideas of what I’m going to put in each paragraph and specific details for each, then I like to actually start writing. Once I’m done writing my first draft, it really helps me to read it out loud before I do anything else. I catch a lot of spelling, grammar, and punctuation errors I’ve made. I also really helps me to have someone else read my writing. I like to know the way other people are going to receive what I’ve written too. My weaknesses are poems, I can never really get the lines to fit together, but when I’m writing a story I really like to describe things in detail and paint what is happening. My trick is to see what’s happening in my head and describe the senses that I can.
ReplyDeleteOften I find myself doing the same things over and over to write. I start by brainstorming ideas in a list form. I then continue to go on with a basic outline. Depending on what I'm writing, I choose 3-4 bullets to emphasize on. Then, I sit down and write for 15 minutes. When I have completed this, I go through, fix mistakes, and create my rough draft. The editing process continues until I have a final draft completed.
ReplyDeleteImpressive. I can't imagine working so formulaically on the writing process.
DeleteI have trouble writing, but only sometimes. When I do have trouble writing, it can get really bad. I need inspiration to write. The inspiration comes from nowhere. Prewriting, brainstorming, etc, do nothing whatsoever. It has to just pop into my head. It could take several hours, or it may be there as soon as the topic is assigned. At that point, I can type almost indefinitely on a single topic. The rest of the process is totally fluid. There is usually little difference between my rough draft and final draft. I do my best to get it right the first time.
ReplyDeleteI enjoy writing! But I hate writing about stupid things that I don't have more than a sentence to say. Taking from Theune's class, writing is best created when you have an audience. I'm not going to use big fancy words on a paper that is to be read to elementary children. So having an audience definitely keeps the motivation going for me! Unless it's a timed writing or something lame, I usually don't "plan it out". I like to jump right in! But if it is something that takes a lot of form, then I will take the time to write out a plan. I usually use the whole "sandwhich chart" that we learned in grade school, you know, the "top bun introduction and the lettuce and tomatoe and cheese detailed body paragraphs and the closing bun". Alright that sounds downright stupid, but it works!! After I write a paper, I'll usually skim for errors and turn it in as a rough draft. After that, I make my friends proof read it for errors. Then I'll turn it in.
ReplyDeleteGussie, do you coerce your friends? "After that, I make my friends proof read it for errors." Also, "Unless it's a timed writing or something lame I usually don't plan it out" are you implying that you discriminate against writing assignments? I find your writing process to be quite criminal. You're saucy.
DeleteI usually have a good idea of what I want to include and how I want to space out my papers. This comes from me being a decisive person that knows what she wants (yes, I'm sassy). If I am passionate about what I'm writing, I will constantly edit and revise the paper myself. I'm good at revising the details myself; however, I'm not good at revising the grammar and mechanics of a paper. I find this a little funny because I'm better at grammar and mechanics than the former. If there are grammar mistakes in this, I apologize. I think this is because reading my own words makes it harder to isolate individual sentences and edit accordingly. I love seeing a "final draft" of a paper that I've edited each sentence of. I expect to do a lot of rewriting and "messing with" my paper throughout the week.
ReplyDeleteThe biggest/hardest part about writing a (slightly or fully) creative essay, for me, is finding the right thing to write about. The only way, in fact, I can write a halfway-decent essay or story is if it's something I'm interested in. I can, as Holden Caulfeild would say, 'shoot the bull,' for 3 pages about something that's completely beside me, however it certainly won't be good material. And it deeeefinitely wont be great. My parents always tell me what a good writer I am because I'm their son and they love me, but they stress it much more so on the pieces I actually wanted to be good. In other words, it's hard to cultivate something into being good and nurture a piece of writing you just want to get done and get a grade; But it's easy to get involved in something youre writing about when the topic matters to you.
ReplyDeleteFor me the most challenging thing about writing a paper is not really what to write about but how to write about it. It can get very frustrating to try to put an idea, memory, thought down into words. It can also be challenging to construct a creative idea and make it into a story, and put meaningless meaning into it. A good way that can boost creativity, which helps me, is to just write about anything, and just keep writing without looking back, then when you have it, stop and get back to your original writing and add to it. I usually go through about 5(+) drafts that I usually keep under one document where I will just change anything from a word, sentence, to a paragraph. Instead of reading my draft out loud, I usually have somebody else read it and input their opinion. An ongoing problem of mine is that I tend to over complex my writing to where it may not make sense or the reader just doesn't understand some of the meanings or the words.
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